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, that wednesday's debate was certainly a big win for mitt romney, hands down. but observers are still criticizing him, actually, about not giving enough details. so, i want to read to you what a conservative columnist for "new york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics? is he having a problem with that? >> easy to criticize both of them for not giving enough specifics. romney has a 59-point economic plan that most people have never looked at. i would say that is probably too specific. i think mitt romney should focus on saying things like, mr. president, we are, you seem to have a problem with profits, which my company made. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a little problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romne
, that wednesday's debate was certainly a big win for mitt romney, hands down. but observers are still criticizing him, actually, about not giving enough details. so, i want to read to you what a conservative columnist for "new york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics?...
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so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not the first thing i notice. the first thing i notice was the swagger that the president came out with. >> bill: he was bopping. >> his arms are swinging high. romney is not. he is very stiff when it comes to walking out an stage. then the hands meet. the patting goes on. the most interesting thing about that is as someone is trying to pat your arm demonstrating is he powerful. president obama comes across as powerful because is he patting. romney had the same amount of power going on. >> bill: do you believe that they actually think about what's going to happen when they walk out and how they are going to shake hands and their posture. do you believe they think about that. >> i think they know about it, yes. absolutely. >> bill: what do you mean know about it? >> they are told what to do. walk out and make sure this is how you proceed. one of the interesting dynamics was,
so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not the first thing i notice. the first thing i notice was the swagger that the president came out with. >> bill: he was bopping. >> his arms are swinging high. romney is not. he is very stiff when it comes to walking out an stage. then the hands meet. the patting goes on. the most...
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you know, that feels about right. it helped romney but we're just in the second inning of a long, long ball game. >> when it gets to the foreign policy debate which is the last one, lots to discuss there, obviously, syria, also libya with ambassador stevens. but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama
you know, that feels about right. it helped romney but we're just in the second inning of a long, long ball game. >> when it gets to the foreign policy debate which is the last one, lots to discuss there, obviously, syria, also libya with ambassador stevens. but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on...
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is that all right? >> all right. >> in ohio, around the country, we're looking at the wall street journal reporting $150 million raised last month for the obama campaign. we'll told by the romney campaign theirs is going to be impressive, but we don't have any numbers. do you have a sense that the romney campaign is keeping pace with that extraordinary fundraising result for the president's campaign? >> you know, i don't know the numbers, but my suspicion is that that's a very impressive number by president obama, and while he was, in essence, his cash on hand began to dwindle starting in may had he spent all the money on tv, this is going to get way in the weeds, but it's very important. if you're obama or romney, the money that you have in your own campaign treasury is the money most easy to spend with the biggest impact, and you're guaranteed, if you're obama or romney in getting the lowest unit rate, the lowest cost for the a tv spot buying from a tv station. outside groups like american crossroads
is that all right? >> all right. >> in ohio, around the country, we're looking at the wall street journal reporting $150 million raised last month for the obama campaign. we'll told by the romney campaign theirs is going to be impressive, but we don't have any numbers. do you have a sense that the romney campaign is keeping pace with that extraordinary fundraising result for the president's campaign? >> you know, i don't know the numbers, but my suspicion is that that's a very...
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right now, i want to bring in ann marie hauser, a romney campaign surrogate and former communications director for governor tim pawlenty's presidential campaign. thank you so much for joining us. you know, the president raised a whole lot, actually, an astounding amount, in just september. you know, and after the debate, observers say he seemed energized at these rallies. do you expect to see a different president obama putting a different foot forward after that debate last week? >> it's no surprise that barack obama raised this much money. we knew they was going to raise this much money all along. in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking about major donors. we're talking about people who saw his debate and liked what they saw. >> 60% of them are new donors. so i think the romney c
right now, i want to bring in ann marie hauser, a romney campaign surrogate and former communications director for governor tim pawlenty's presidential campaign. thank you so much for joining us. you know, the president raised a whole lot, actually, an astounding amount, in just september. you know, and after the debate, observers say he seemed energized at these rallies. do you expect to see a different president obama putting a different foot forward after that debate last week? >> it's...
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the president didn't win. >> right. chris matthews went on to say, if only the president had been watching my show. [ laughter ] >> look. this was one of those epic political masters. jay leno said it best, only the replacement refs think president obama had a good night. >> jon: the comment that challengers always get a boost. nobody seemed to want to say mitt romney won because mitt romney won. >> it was amazing even msnbc had to carry on as if someone in the family had died. it was as piston irk but it was a rare moment of consensus in the press because the press basically agreed romney had won. that must have been painful to admit that but it was obvious. >> jon: they were waiting for a mitt romney gaffe. they were going to pounce upon that and it didn't happen? >> no, it certainly did not. i was not one of the mainstream liberal media but middle stream liberal media that was very upset how the presidential did. i have a theory about why he did as well. that is this white house as opposed to the bush white house and
the president didn't win. >> right. chris matthews went on to say, if only the president had been watching my show. [ laughter ] >> look. this was one of those epic political masters. jay leno said it best, only the replacement refs think president obama had a good night. >> jon: the comment that challengers always get a boost. nobody seemed to want to say mitt romney won because mitt romney won. >> it was amazing even msnbc had to carry on as if someone in the family...
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in a bipartisan way. >> right. >> so is that it? it's really just about who he's dealing with and what kind of deals are open there to be struck? >> i wouldn't -- i mean, the mitt romney we saw on wednesday is not the mitt romney we've been seeing on this campaign trail, at all. and you know, the idea that he is going to go to washington and reach across the aisle, there's a congress there that doesn't want to reach across the aisle. they want hip, if he gets elected, to do what they say. and on top of that, he didn't mention his name, but paul ryan would be his vice president. paul ryan is the one, i mean mitt romney says he has a 59-point plan, but paul ryan actually has a budget and it's a budget that goes far and away and is very specific in ways that romney has not been. if he's really this pragmatic guy, then he's going to be forced to do things that naturally he wouldn't want to do. >>> i have read that much. it's way more than 59 points. maggie, in wednesday's debate, one thing i think has been a little bit conflated here, d
in a bipartisan way. >> right. >> so is that it? it's really just about who he's dealing with and what kind of deals are open there to be struck? >> i wouldn't -- i mean, the mitt romney we saw on wednesday is not the mitt romney we've been seeing on this campaign trail, at all. and you know, the idea that he is going to go to washington and reach across the aisle, there's a congress there that doesn't want to reach across the aisle. they want hip, if he gets elected, to do...
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. >> reporter: also in virginia, mitt romney's post-debate momentum ran smack right into those breakthrough numbers. >> more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> reporter: romney tried to spin the unemployment rate. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today, on the day the president got elected, the unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> reporter: the president, who spoke before romney, saw that charge coming. >> today's news, certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy, to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> reporter: but there was more. when the former ceo of general electric took to twitter and the air waves, suggesting the obama campaign cooked the numbers. >> i don't know what the right number is. but i'll tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> reporter: many experts laughed off the charge. but the labor secretary, whose department compiles the monthly report, was not laughing. >> i'
. >> reporter: also in virginia, mitt romney's post-debate momentum ran smack right into those breakthrough numbers. >> more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> reporter: romney tried to spin the unemployment rate. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today, on the day the president got elected, the unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> reporter: the president, who spoke before romney, saw that...
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this week -- >> right. >> -- i think he still gets elected, and i think some air comes out of these stocks. >> and i want you to explain vol differential to all the audience. but in the meantime we're going to explain the put calendar, which is the trade that you're putting on tonight, dan. we've done calendars before, of course, but it's always good to refresh, so let's crack open the playbook and see how this thing works. in this strategy you sell in your data put and use that money to buy a longer data put of the same strike. this is a bearish strategy. it does require timing though. you want the stock to be above the strike of the put you're short by the first expiration but below the strike of the longer data put that you were long by the second expiration. so, dan, walk us through the trade. >> sure. so i did this today, and here's the thing. i'm going to do this trade in earnest next week, wednesday or thursday prior to earnings because like you said, you've got to thread the needle here and you've got to get the strikes right. but i chose october/november of 41 put calendar
this week -- >> right. >> -- i think he still gets elected, and i think some air comes out of these stocks. >> and i want you to explain vol differential to all the audience. but in the meantime we're going to explain the put calendar, which is the trade that you're putting on tonight, dan. we've done calendars before, of course, but it's always good to refresh, so let's crack open the playbook and see how this thing works. in this strategy you sell in your data put and use...
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you have all this craziness on the right that mitt romney is not standing up. this is where the president said, he won't stand up to the craziness on the right. he didn't stand up to donald trump with the whole thing about the birthers. he's not standing up to -- >> morris, if you were a republican, morris, would you be standing? what would your reaction be? would you be saying something doesn't pass the smell test here? >> i would do what mccain did when a woman said those bad things about president obama, and he told her she was wrong. you need to stand up for the right thing. it's funny when the numbers work to the advantage of the republicans, everyone's happy with it. but when it doesn't work to their advantage, it's a conspiracy. do the right thing -- >> there's a conspiracy on the other side, morris, come on. >> i'm talking about what you guys are saying right now. i'm not talking about what the on the right or the left right now. jack welsh has done this, donald trump has done this, mitt romney hasn't stood up to anyone on the craziness on his party. th
you have all this craziness on the right that mitt romney is not standing up. this is where the president said, he won't stand up to the craziness on the right. he didn't stand up to donald trump with the whole thing about the birthers. he's not standing up to -- >> morris, if you were a republican, morris, would you be standing? what would your reaction be? would you be saying something doesn't pass the smell test here? >> i would do what mccain did when a woman said those bad...
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he has a serious advantage. >> [indiscernible] >> right, mitt romney will do something tomorrow to make a seismic shift. you also engage in more localized races, state, congressional and senate. >> we are primarily focused on the presidential election appeared the goal at crossroads is to beat president obama. but we are also heavily invested in senate and house races. in a lot of ways, the other super pacs are not. we are focusing on all of the senate races, where you will see the advertising earlier on. the bigger the office, the more people pay attention earlier. >> crossroads plays this outsized role in the senate races. don't think that these two are not inclined. i am not suggesting it is nefarious. even if there is parity between the democrats and republicans alike in the presidential advertising, they are way out spending on the senate races and house races. and those have been packed. it is because of the environment, how people feel when there is billions of dollars of ad spending in the state of montana, for example, on the senate race. it affects the house race. it affects o
he has a serious advantage. >> [indiscernible] >> right, mitt romney will do something tomorrow to make a seismic shift. you also engage in more localized races, state, congressional and senate. >> we are primarily focused on the presidential election appeared the goal at crossroads is to beat president obama. but we are also heavily invested in senate and house races. in a lot of ways, the other super pacs are not. we are focusing on all of the senate races, where you will...
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, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this fits perfectly into this narrative of a country that's divided because it's a little bit good news. not a lot, and it leaves everybody with room to argue. >> symbolically, it was a victory for the white house to get that unemployment rate under 8% along with just about everybody else. i predicted that would be the key to obama winning re-election, but objectively, if you look at the numbers, there are some real problems with the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force. you're comparing it to reagan, morning in america, you compare
, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this...
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and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case, i said something that's just completely wrong. >> reporter: mitt romney has campaign events this week in florida, but around those events he'll be joined by senator rob portman, the one that plays president obama in the debate camp practice sessions. mitt romney is getting ready for the next session, next debate, hoping his mum carries over next week. >> john harwood is cnbc's chief washington correspondent. thanks for being here. i don't know if it's possible to strip politics away from these new unemployment numbers, but if you can, explain, does the president get credit for these numbers coming down, and how real are they? >> well, the president gets credit or blame for whatever the economic conditions are on his watch. these are numbers that are better than they've been, but they're still not good numbers. 7.8% is a high unemployment rate. we've got an economy that's not growing very fast. but it's certainly good news for the president to be able to say that 7.8%, t
and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case, i said something that's just completely wrong. >> reporter: mitt romney has campaign events this week in florida, but around those events he'll be joined by senator rob portman, the one that plays president obama in the debate camp practice sessions. mitt romney is getting ready for the next session, next debate, hoping his mum carries over next week. >> john...
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at least for governor mitt romney, debate and what debate? oh, right. wednesday. the first presidential debate. we got a rigorous macro economic lesson that day. but by the end of the week, the only number that mattered was 7.8. that's because the unemployment rate released yesterday is the lowest since 2009. the bureau of labor statistics announced fresh revisions for the summer jobs numbers. in fact, july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than were originally reported. and the household survey showed is an exceptionally strong month with 873,000 more employed americans last month than in july. president obama was back on the trail yesterday trying to temper his enthusiasm. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> mr. romney, of course, saw it a little differently. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> good try b
at least for governor mitt romney, debate and what debate? oh, right. wednesday. the first presidential debate. we got a rigorous macro economic lesson that day. but by the end of the week, the only number that mattered was 7.8. that's because the unemployment rate released yesterday is the lowest since 2009. the bureau of labor statistics announced fresh revisions for the summer jobs numbers. in fact, july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than were originally reported....
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this year neither of them are really speaking to the people yes forty seven percent that came from romney and now the thirty percent thing that came from ryan and. a lot of presidents telling us that they don't care about it right at this point a month away from elections i feel like they just wants to be to get it over with and they just want to hear more details and plans get it over with and get on with it and do something very good they do things up on the it does work. yet they're the smart ones with all the millions of dollars do you think they get put on a better show right. whether or not you think this election is boring the bottom line is we only have about a month until it's finally over and we can all gladly move on. well next hour and off talks to the co-founder of and find out how to ensure computer security in the digital age spotlight is coming up for half a short break. in japan the average height for men is one hundred eighty two centimeters ten centimeters shorter because of that some employers refused to hire me one of them even told me directly that i was too short to
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a lot of presidents telling us that they don't care about it right at this point a month away from elections i feel like they just wants to be to get it over with and they just want to hear more details of plans you get and get it over with and get on with it and do something because they do this now as things up. there the smart ones with all the millions of dollars do you think they get put on a better show right for whether or not you think this election is boring the bottom line is we only have about a month until it's finally over and we can all gladly move on. to watching r.t.m. exerciser is here next with his latest report. the sun rises over what seems like analyst forest but here in new directions crime hundred kilometers north of light of all stalk as in much of the world it's disappearing at a catastrophic rate. mockers both illegal and those finding ways to outsmart the system and filing down the forests of the region for them profit goes well beyond the future of our planet and the result could be an ecological crisis the world wildlife fund for nature makes regular trips to hel
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this year neither of them are really speaking to the people yes forty seven percent that came from romney now the thirty percent thing that came from ryan and. a lot of presidents telling us that they don't care about it right at this point a month away from elections i feel like they just wants to be to get it over with and they just want to hear more details and plans get it over with and get on with it and do something very well could they do things up. there are the smart ones with all the millions of dollars do you think they get put on a better show right for whether or not you think this election is boring the bottom line is we only have about a month until it's finally over and we can all gladly move on. then on the way are to toss a member of the u.k. parliament who risked his political career for exposing the truth about his country's mission in afghanistan. overcoming a barrier like this seems possible. but then you crave something. and when you reach the peak. you'll do whatever it takes to get on the top of the world on artie's.
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mitt romney's remark about 47%. >> what did you read into that? >>. >> i read a lot. >>> what i read is a, he didn't understand what was really the economics of what was going on. because 47%, he said didn't pay income taxes. but many of those people pay payroll taxes. many of those are young people, old people, after all, many of the older people may not be paying income taxes now but they paid their social security contributions. and now they're getting back what they paid for. so to say that they were freeloaders was really denigrating a lifetime of work that they had contributed to. >> rose: where is the federal reserve in all of this? >> the federal reserve obviously wasn't doing what it should have done in the years before the crisis. >> it was paying too much attention to interest rates and not enough attention to employment. >> that was one of the problems. it was not paying enough attention to what the banks were doing. one of the members of the fed actually talked about it. there is a housing bubble going on there is predatory lending go
mitt romney's remark about 47%. >> what did you read into that? >>. >> i read a lot. >>> what i read is a, he didn't understand what was really the economics of what was going on. because 47%, he said didn't pay income taxes. but many of those people pay payroll taxes. many of those are young people, old people, after all, many of the older people may not be paying income taxes now but they paid their social security contributions. and now they're getting back what...